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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
3:12 Why we wanted to do this episode
7:06 What role models come to mind for Jacob
8:47 Difference between self-help and fictional role models
11:35 Story is a shortcut to empathy
12:25 Parents gatekeeping things from their kids
16:20 Finding role models on social media
25:46 Are you what you read?
37:54 Can you question Authority too much?
49:49 Podcast devolves into talking about Dalinar
54:38 Jacob & Richard’s biggest fictional Role Model
1:03:22 What are the virtues & qualities of good role models?