As a child I was a huge Avatar fan. You could catch me running around in our countryhouse's backyard with handmade bow and arrows and a blue sash as a tail... I was cringe but I was free
I never got into or understood the hype around Avatar. But the idea that the small Avatar fanbase gets together for "conservation meetups" is incredibly wholesome. You keep doing your thing, Avatar Fans.
Oh no there’s a dude who wears Avatar merch completely unironically. Jimmy from my high school went full LOTR nerd but for avatar in 2009. Dude was one of the “heart throb” popular kids until he proudly showed pretty much everyone his collection of 5 avatar blue rays. One for watching, one for “display”, one for safe keeping/ prosperity, one for his future wife, and one to sell later because he was sure it would be super valuable. Watching the light of dozens of teen girls crushes fade during his monologue is a core memory for me
The discussion around Avatar lacking cultural impact was in itself cultural impact.
The thing people always fail to account for when pointing out that Avatar is the highest grossing film is that 3D movie tickets cost almost twice as much as normal tickets. So, in the case of Avatar, highest grossing doesn't mean the most people saw it, it just means that people paid more to see it.
I remember in my high school years a girl I hung out with was so obsessed with the blue people to the point that she was truly depressed she couldn’t be one. “They’re beautiful” she would remark.
I met a guy who told me Avatar is his favourite film of all time and I felt like I had found bigfoot.
I think what people miss, whenever they talk about Avatar, is that things can be popular yet intrascendental. Avatar made a lot of money because people like the effects and rememeber having a good time watching it, but they gain so little out of it regarding its characters that it will never mass any sort of constant following. People who say no one cared aren't wrong, but didn't understand that most people aren't that much into film discussions and they mostly want to spend they spare time, and Avatar 1 and 2 serve that purpose and little more
Pandora in Disney World is also an anomaly. I’ve been multiple times and the lines are hours long, but no one’s in the gift shops and you don’t see anyone with Avatar souvenirs or shirts.
The second one was basically “what if we made the same movie but with a more aquatic theme.”
Avatar was the peak 'water cooler movie'. "Hey Bill you seen that new movie?" "With the blue guys? Yup" Barely something to talk about but everyone knows it
here in Italy, we have a small animated movie called "Aida degli alberi"... Aida, the protagonist, is a blue, feline-like girl who lives on a forest-like planet... and this movie was released in 2001.
Recently, I got into a binge of creating my own species and I just realized, Avatar's biggest failure is that none of the characters are instantly recognizable. They're literary is no variety with the Navi.
I think one of the things that hurt Avatar/Pandora from becoming a sci-fi fandom perennial was a lack of easily-accessible presence between movies. Compare it to how the OG Star Wars movies put out books, comics, & cartoons to keep themselves in the public eye between the years. Meanwhile, all Avatar has is... a world at a single expensive theme park. I don't think there were even comics, which is a niche of a niche now.
Remember guys, Pacific Rim with just ONE movie have a big fanbase...
An important note on Avatar’s record breaking box office numbers is that Avatar actually didn’t sell that many tickets. If you look at movies by individual tickets sold Avatar doesn’t break the top 10. The reality is that Avatar’s box office records are owed to the inflated ticket price of 3d and IMAX showings.
I think the secret sauce is that the real star of the AVATAR movies is the world itself. Yes there's character, heroes/villains, technology... but it's all in service of an incredibly realized, vivid, and immersive world. You can't really box that up and sell it as a LEGO set or a t-shirt. The folks who love AVATAR talk about things like community, culture, and conservation. You can't put that on as costume and cosplay it.
*channeling my inner Smiling Friends rotoscope guy* “IS THAT FUCKING BLUEFACE, DUDE?!”
A part of me still wonders whether the producers saw people online going insane about "avatar" and just assumed it was their movie and not the animated show and just didn't look any closer.
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